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By: Lance

Lance — Sun, 08 Jan 2006 05:55:32 +0000

Right then, and when I sober up I might be able to spell.

I of course meant “your batch size”. “scraped plastic phoebia” and “not to be hasty”.

Sigh,
lance

By: Lance

Lance — Sun, 08 Jan 2006 05:42:13 +0000

I agree w/ both of you.

If you batch size is 19 litres, and not 23 they work great . . . once.

I’d not recommend them for multiple uses. Ian, the scaped plastic phoebia is real. Studies (I don’t have them on me know) have shown that the lightest of carboy brushes will scrape the inside of _any_ plastic container and provide a haven for bacteria.

Another aspect of that same study was that the stronger your sanitizing solution the greater the chances of bacteria forming bunches, similar to ants crossing a river.

The downsided of this is that the bacteria in the inside of the bunch is protected from the effects of the sanitizing solutions. This is another good reason not to be hasy when sanitizing. Use the recommended dosage and time frame.

Cheers,
lance

By: Ian

Ian — Sat, 07 Jan 2006 14:03:17 +0000

Thanks, Ben. I have heard so many opposing opinions on using water cooler jugs, that I’ve not tried it myself thus far. One of the things I’ve heard is that they tend to get little scratch marks in the surface when being brush cleaned, and later, these scratches will make them even more difficult to sanitize (more surface area for bacteria to hide).

I do have three spare water cooler jugs; maybe I should just try them sometime during one of those times when I’m running out of spare carboys. But you’ve never had a problem, huh? That’s interesting to know, and will encourage me to give them a try

By: Ben Evert

Ben Evert — Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:46:24 +0000

Hi Ian,

Great idea!!! Here’s another, I use the plastic 5 gallon water cooler jugs as temporary carboys. They are great for racking the wine a second time and leaving it there for a month or so.